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The Three Final Wishes of Alexander the Great Alexander was a great Greek king. As a military commander, he was undefeated and the most successful throughout history. On his way home from conquering many countries, he came down with an illness. At that moment, his captured territories, powerful army, sharp swords, and wealth all had no meaning to him. He realized that death would soon arrive and he would be unable to return to his homeland. He told his officers: “I will soon leave this world. I have three final wishes. You need to carry out what I tell you.” His generals, in tears, agreed.
“My first wish is to have my physician bring my coffin home alone. After a gasping for air, Alexander continued: “My second wish is scatter the gold, silver, and gems from my treasure-house along the path to the tomb when you ship my coffin to the grave.” After wrapping in a woolen blanket and resting for a while, he said: “My final wish it to put my hands outside the coffin.” People surrounding him all were very curious, but no one dare to ask the reason. Alexander’s most favored general kissed his hand and asked: “My Majesty, We will follow your instruction. But can you tell us why you want us to do it this way?” After taking a deep breath, Alexander said: “I want everyone to understand the three lessons I have learned. To let my physician carry my coffin alone is to let people realize that a physician cannot really cure people’s illness. Especially when they face death, the physicians are powerless. I hope people will learn to treasure their lives. My second wish is to tell people not to be like me in pursuing wealth. I spent my whole life pursuing wealth, but I was wasting my time most of the time. My third wish to let people understand that I came to this world in empty hands and I will leave this world also in empty hands.” he closed his eyes after finished talking and stopped breathing.
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“On his death bed, his marshals asked him to whom he bequeathed his kingdom. Since Alexander had no obvious and legitimate heir (his son Alexander IV would be born after his death, and his other son was by a concubine, not a wife), it was a question of vital importance. There is some debate to what Alexander replied. Some believe that Alexander said, “Kratisto” (that is, “To the strongest!”) or “Krat’eroi” (to the stronger).” ( wikipedia)
So please don’t tell those fake stories to deceive children.
If you want to tell moral stories, you can use another name other than the real people.
Both these stories are true. And just so you know, wikipedia is not a respected source (even my kindergartners will tell you that). Alexander the great realized that all was vanity, and therefore he said his kingdom would go to the strongest. One does not negate the other in any way shape or form.
the word Krat Eroi is an albanian word for the Strongest ..today in Albanian language is Krat Heroi ..hero mean great and kra mean hands ..both hands is Krat-..
“Kratisto” (that is, “To the strongest!”) or “Krat’eroi” (to the stronger).”
remember we talking of a language which is spoken 2000 years ago
This is a stupid comment (the Albanian one), because ~2200 years ago the entire Mediterranean basin spoke some kind of Greek or another before moving on to Roman and Hebrew. Albanian wasn’t a language at the time, so it is most likely that modern Albanian, much like many Balkan and European languages have Greek and Roman filtered into them today.
This story is a fabrication.He died unconscious. possibly of typhoid, and had no dying words. It doesn’t make sense, anyway; why would all his wealth travel with him ? And as for scattering it-come onnnnn ! Some people will believe anything, but anyone who knows about this era in history knows that this story is drivel. It’s a lie. It never happened.
“A language” which was the language of the Hellenes dimwit, not fucking Albania
Hello
Hey peeps…. l like it too…… i think…..lmao!!!!
Lies! This story is all lies!
Even if it’s not real, I don’t know what kind of IDIOT cites wikipedia to contest anything.
Great post, though it’s probably a myth, that’s not the point of the story.
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Read more history books!
It is absolutely a true story……..
whether it is true or not is not a question or whether it is good or bad. Ask whether it is useful to you or not. accept it or leave this should be the strategy. in my opinion, the great people who lived great life has great story or message to other
Absolute nonsense
You have to read more Historical romans and books.Alexander (Aleksandar) The Great is the King of MACEDONIA! Not from Greece.Therefore the Heading has to be:
The Final Three Wishes of Macedonian King – Alexander the Great
Take a look at this:
Dane why dont you run along you uneducated boxhead SLAV
HAIL HELLAS
ps Macedonia is a region in Northern Greece NOT north of Greece sadarse
Pricks , he was not Greek …
Alexander the Great was Macedonian. He may have wanted to be greek, but he was Macedonian. You Greeks need to face the facts. Just deal with it. It’s not a big deal, really. You have a much bigger history to protect and maintain other than Alexander the Great. Just give us Macedonians the one thing us Macedonians can be recognized by.
your not macedonian bitch stop stealing other poeples history your yugoslavian of bettery fyrom
you monkeydonians just give every time recital with your bullshits “Alexander the Great was Macedonian. He may have wanted to be greek”….you monkeydonsians need to understand and face the fact that Alexander was GREEK and VERY VERY PROUD OF IT…. all the…documents and monuments prove it compare to you that the only evidence you have is…your own bull crap theories….we will not give you not even a little bit of stone of our history that you want to claim as yours when is not belong to you…you are slavs your ancestors were some bunch of savage semi apes who were drinking alcohol at there victim skulls and nothing more….
Actually Present Macedonia and Ancient Macedonia have nothing in common including Alexander the Great. Present Macedonians are Slavic, Alexander was not Slavic his people are more closely related to the Greeks then the Slavic people in Macedonia.
Slavic people didn’t arrive tell the 5th and 6th centuries so completely unrelated.
this is really a good one..
nice example to eradicate terrorism from the world..
pass it on to the wealthier people so that they can change
I’m an Aussie with no loyalty to Greeks or Macos but it is an undisputed fact Alex the Great was Macedonian not Greek, end of story. Why do Greeks get so cut and try and make out he was part Greek, is this because Alex Whipped their arses ? I don’t get it is this the reason ?
You’re a dumb fuck hick you stupid moron. Make the effort to read some texts not swip in say you have no interest but then have some interest you box head dopey Slav joke.
Macedonia was like Sparta, Athens, Thebes, Corinth, Mycenae, Crete all GREEK regions without being part of a greater Greece.
Alexander and his father before him only fought to unite mainland Greece with the islands and even take Persia for daring to insult Greeks by attempts to invade and worse Alexander particularly sought to punish Persia for the desecration of Athens and the Parthenon
Yep according to Skopian box heads Alexander fought for Slav values, ethnicity and culture for. handful of illiterate Slav morons
All of you have forgotten or either don’t realise but Alexandros’ mother was Greek! An Epirotisa to be exact from Epirus….meaning Greek….yamoti sas oli!!!
NOTE: Olympias (c.376- 316 B.C.) was the daughter of Neoptolemus, king of Epirus, the 4th wife of Philip II of Macedon, and the mother of Alexander the Great.
Makedonia is Greece forever!!!!!
After all that Alexander the Great achieved in his short life, the entire globe is still the same way inspired till date as from his last day. Its useless to argue on the fact basing on his origins.. Glance from Europe, Asia or even the remotest corner of the globe – Children, Adults remain equally thrilled at his accomplishments even today.. Bring up some unknown facts about his life folks!!! do some research and show up…try making a lineage nature from Philip the great and things like that,.,., 🙂
Alexandre of Macedonia was a Macedonion King,
at the time of Alexander, Macedon IS NOT a Great State,
But A Country of its own, and A true Monotomy in its own rights,
Alexanders Father Philip, was a decendent of Heracles himself, His mother olympia was a decendent of BOTH Hektor and King Priam, as Well as Pyrus (neoptlomes) and Achilles Himself,
Alexandre had no 3 last wishes, this is BULLSHIT,
Quote from somebody:
“On his death bed, his marshals asked him to whom he bequeathed his kingdom. Since Alexander had no obvious and legitimate heir (his son Alexander IV would be born after his death, and his other son was by a concubine, not a wife), it was a question of vital importance. There is some debate to what Alexander replied. Some believe that Alexander said, “Kratisto” (that is, “To the strongest!”) or “Krat’eroi” (to the stronger).” ( wikipedia)
So please don’t tell those fake stories to deceive children.
If you want to tell moral stories, you can use another name other than the real people.
This is correct, Although, there are some theorys that say Alexander the Great of Macedon and his Uncle Alexander of Epirus both made each other their heirs, as they both set of without an heir on conquests on opposite sides of the world,
Alexander the Great heads east to Persia, while his uncle heads west to what is Now Italy,
Not long before the Persian expedition Alexanders sister Cleopatra had been married to her Uncle Alexander of Epirus, It was at the Wedding, that Philip of Macedon is Assasinated,
SO please guys, Pick up a few books before you go Spouting shit on the internet, There are MANY sorces of Information on Alaxandre of Macedon,
The Greatest Alexander of them all.
And while your at it, Maybe read abit more about the underlying reasons and the history between the Greeks and the Persians, As alexander himself said, Those who do not know the Past Cannot Possibly understand the now.
^_^
There are many great sources…..and you chose to cite Wikipedia?
the great American president George Washington was English born and an English general. He is enshrined in history as one of the great American figures . Factually and by choice. Even if there was a slavic race over two thousand years ago, and Alexander the Great, hypotheticly, came from that race of people, factually and by choice he always declared himself as ‘Ellinas’
I love the story of Alexander the Great. I have to do a presentation about this AMAZING man.
i am almost as great as Alexander the Great
LOL pathetic “greeks” stop stealing Macedonian history go check your ethiopian genes and leave ancient history alone
cause Alex wasnt a “gayreek” he was a 100% Macedonian.
and this thing about his last three wishes is bullcrap.
He was just a avanturistic spoil child that played with the power of his father – Philip The Macedonian was the first political manipulator and a Real King.
From where i am there is an old saying that he is killed by his greedy generals ( Macedonian syndrome ) and he is buried at unknown place with out any honors – that is the first theory, and the second is that after his death (probably from a malaria) his body was returned to macedonia request of his living mother and he was buried without any big ceremonies in macedonia at uknown place again because of the gready generals who wanted to grab the fortune from the empire and they left nothing for his sons.
“Macedonia was the first large territorial state with an effective centralized political, military and administrative structure to come into being on the continent of Europe”. Green
The ancient Macedonians were a distinct nation, separate from their neighbors, the ancient Greeks, Illyrians, and Thracians. The ancient Greek and Roman historians tell us that the Macedonians spoke a separate Macedonian language and had their own customs, culture, and traditions. Archeological discoveries confirm that the material culture of the Macedonians also defer greatly from all their neighbors, and it is by far more superior in artistry (gold, paintings, weapons, mosaics) then anything found in contemporary Greece, Illyria, and Thrace. The texts of the ancient writers distinguish the Macedonians from the ancient Greeks, just like they distinguish the Romans and the Carthaginians. Yet, like the other non-Greeks, Carthaginians, Romans, Illyrians, and Thracians, the Macedonian high society also used the Greek language along with Macedonian. Greek was spoken by the nobility of many different ancient nations, just like French was spoken in the 19th century (at the German and Russian courts for example).
There is no doubt nevertheless that the Illyrains, Thracians, and Macedonians were non-Greeks, or in the words of the ancient Greeks “barbarians” which literally means people who spoke other non-Greek languages.
Here are a few abstracts of ancient greek and roman writers and modern english and american writers:
The Greeks never stopped fighting the Macedonians. While Alexander was conquering Persia with his 25-30,000 Macedonians, more then 50,000 Greeks actually fought on the side of the Persians against the Macedonians (Curtius). The Macedonians slaughtered 18,000 of them in the first battle and sent 2,000 to forced labor in Macedonia (Arrian). After Alexander died the Macedonian general Pithon massacred 23,000 more in a single battle when the Greeks revolted in Bactria (Diodorus). In Greece, when the news of Alexander the Great’s death became known, the Greeks united once again and threw out the Macedonians out of their country in the Lamian War (Diodorus). But the Macedonian army returned with massive reinforcements, defeated the Greeks both on land and sea, and re-occupied Greece, putting a bloody end of the Lamian War (Diodorus).
The Greeks nevertheless continued raising rebellion after rebellion against the Macedonians to free Greece from the foreign occupation. All successors of Alexander the Great fought them, and the Macedonian king Antigonus II Gonatas fought three Greek uprising who unified against the “barbarous Macedonians” (Diodorus, Plutarch, Justin). Finally in 197 BC, the Macedonian king Philip V was defeated by the joint force of Romans and Greeks, and Macedonia lost Greece after almost 150 years of occupation. When the Romans proclaimed that Greece is free, such an enormous burst of enthusiasm exploded among the Greeks that the Roman general who made the announcement was almost killed by the mass of people that flocked to shake his hand and congratulate him for diving the Macedonians out (Livy, Polybius).
Alexander a Greek?? WTF?? How can somebody be a Greek and kill the Greeks? Phillip was known as Phillhelene which means “friend of Helenes[Greeks]” and logically a NON Greek…otherwise he would have been friend of himself?? BULLSHIT!
Macedonians were known as barbarians. Barbarian comes from the Greek word “βάρβαρος” = non Greek, someone who does NOT speak the Greek language. And here are Demosthenes’ words to Phillip:
Demosthenes
Greek Orator Speaking against King Phillip II of ancient Macedonia.
“… not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks, but not even a barbarian from any place that can be named with honors, but a pestilent knave from Macedonia, whence it was never yet possible to buy a decent slave” – Demosthenes, Third Philippic, 31. The famous words that this Greek orator from Athens used to describe the Macedonian king Philip II, the father of Alexander the Great, prior to Philip’s conquest of Greece.
Alexander was nothing else but Macedonian!
Greece stole Aegean Macedonia in 1913 with the Bucharest treatment, as the treatment should be reopen in 2013…the Greek government started a propaganda claiming Macedonia was a Greek region since forever, just in order to keep the occupied land.
PEOPLE…DO NOT LET THE GREEKS FOOL YOU!
GREEK PROPAGANDA MUST STOP!!!!!
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Notice one thing how the greek who posted this titles it ”
The Final Three Wishes of Greek King of Macedon” Greek king of Macedon wtf? you mean Illyrian King of Macedon in other words Albanian King of Thracia you homos are all the way near africa! Mother born in Epirus modern day Albania, father Phillip II who also was illyrian decent. Alexander conquered Greece. If he was greek why the hell would he conquer his own people?
And how was he Albanian in any way? Well, first of all Alexander was son of Philip II and Olympia. Olympia, was the princess of Epirus, a province in Northern Greece, considered to be modern day Albania, and an ancient territory of Albanian tribes. This relation of Alexander having Albanian blood is considered somewhat feasible and acceptable by the history books, but we want to stretch out the enigma of Alexander.
Initially there is the question of where and to what people Alexander belonged to. It is known that Alexander the Great, was really Alexander of Macedon, and the current flag of Macedonia is the ancient sun flag of Alexander’s army. This seems reasonable, but what really were the “Macedon” people. As stated in the Compton’s Interactive Encyclopedia, “the Slavs, occupied much of the area [Balkans] by the 6th century AD”, so it cannot be possible for the now largely Slavic Macedonia to be a descendant from Alexander the Great. Slavic tribes did not come into the region of Northern Greece until well after Alexander’s death, which leaves only two people left, the Albanians and the Greeks. It is important tot note that the history books have not labeled Alexander Greek, and therefore he can only be Albanian. Albanian tribes are the earliest known to occupy northern Greece, and that allows Alexander only one nationality. Alexander did not have Albanian blood, he was an Albanian. To Albanians this fact seems very clear, for we have named our currency lek, after Leka I Madh.
The Barbaric war style of the Illyrians was deeply rooted in Alexander’s spirit, which is good reason for his expertise as a general and a conqueror.
More proof of Alexander’s Albanian ancestry would have to be the close relations he had with the King of the Illyrians, practically a man of his own kin. There is an ancient legend that the Illyrian king gave Alexander a large, beastly, dog to commemorate his achievements. The beast was so ferocious, Alexander decided to make it hunt bears. The dog showed no interest in this endeavor and lay lazily without moving. This angered Alexander and he had the dog killed. When the king of the Illyrians heard of this he sent him another dog, this time with a message of “not wasting the dog’s time with small things”. This time Alexander had the dog fight a lion, which the dog quickly broke the back of, and then an Elephant, who the dog forced off a cliff. The extensive diplomacy between Alexander and the Illyrians only suggests that Alexander was an Albanian himself.
Also, there is the conquered territory of Alexander. When looking at a map of his advances, oddly enough Illirium and Northern Greece is not touched by his armies. Yet, the Illyrian and Northern Greek tribes did not have armies capable of facing the Great Alexander. But Alexander considered them as one, they were all Albanian. Alexander could not possibly conquer his own land. That is why this area remained untouched.
Accepting Alexander’s Albanian ancestry opens a vast world of possibilities. There is of course the long Ptolemy dynasty of Egypt that followed after Alexander’s death, started by one of Alexander’s generals and childhood friend. Accepting Alexander as an Albanian, would mean accepting a big part of Egypt’s history to be determined by an Albanian dynasty, that of Ptolemy.
Alexander’s genius and accomplishments opened a great chapter in the history of Albania. A chapter that has never been forgotten.
The Albanians call themselves “Shqip-tari”. This name is not Indo-European in origin and contains in it the Ural-Altaic suffix “ar” or “tar”. Much like: “Khaz-AR”, “Av-AR”, “Magy-AR”, “Bulg-AR”, “Hung-AR”, “Ta-TAR” – “Ship-TAR”. Taken together with the Shqiptar-Albanian toponyms on the territory of the former Caucasian Albania, this theory on the etymology of “Shqipatr” becomes more plausable. LOOOL
“shqipe” alexander albanian? LOOOL
wtf are you talking about? Have you heard about wars between Macedonians and ilyrians? wars between Macedonians and tracians?
He’s mother was a ilyrian, yes. BUT HIS FATHER PHILIP WAS 100% MACEDONIAN, and he killed ilyrians and greeks for FUN.
Go read history before you talk shit and nonesense about my nation.
And what albanians do you think are ilyrians? kosovars? LOL
A little % of today modern albanians got ilyrian origin.
go check DNA results about balcan nation, and you will see that albania is more slavic than serbia LOL and Macedonia got little % slavic genes.
Before you insult my MACEDONIAN NATION and call us “slavs” you should see DNA reports from a qualified institutes that proofs that we today Modern Macedonians are the real descedants of the ancient.
and ofcourse read some history
The latest book “THE DESCENDANTS OF ALEXANDER THE GREAT OF MACEDON – The arguments and evidence that today’s Macedonians are descendants of the ancient Macedonians”, puts an end to the “Slav” claim.
if you are educaded enough go read the book, and than come with
The real descedants of ilyrians are Bosnians and Croatians.
you modern albanians are just lost thiefs of ancient history.
Here is the proof.
In his book, “The Illyrians”, John Wilkes states on pg: 219
The original URAL-ALTAIC speaking Caucasian Shqiptar-Albanians were part of the AVAR KHANATE which had one of its early capitals in Caucasian Albania (hence Albanian topnyms there, the possible Ural-Altaic etymology of the suffix in the word “Shqip-tar” and the similarities in national costume with Caucasian peoples – the non-Indo-European Georgians, in particular).
The original Shqiptar-Albanian group of AVARS settled in Northern Romania and subjugated the Latin speaking peoples of that area when the Avars entered Europe and conquered most of its Eastern part. Over time they assimilated most of the Latin language of the people they conquered, but imposed their name on their new subjects – just like the Bulg-AR tribe did in Thrace. This explains why modern Albanian has simmilarities to the Romance languages of Romania. This Ship-tar Av-ar tribe, I believe, moved south as far as Epirus from where the Avars are recorded as staging their failed attack on Constantinople.
So, by the time the Avar Khanate was defeated by the armies of Serbs and Croats and Charles the Great in the 7th century, the Avars had reached south as far as EPIRUS from where they based this failed attack on Constantinople!!! In Epirus, this Shqiptar-Avar tribe assimilated the Illyrians and Hellens of Epirus, as they had done to the Latin speakers of Northern Romania more than a century earlier.
While the Avars were driven out of Europe by Charles the Great and killed off by Serbs and Croats in the Balkans in the 7th century, the Serbs NEVER REACHED the south of the Shkumbi until the LATE DARK AGES. The Shqiptar-Avars in Epirus and south of the Shkumbi were left unharmed.
Shqiptars began to spread north of the Shkumbi River quickly through migrations and assimilation into the lands that Serbs had conquered north of the Shkumbi soon after their arrival in the Balkans and their own assimilation of Illyrians. In the early Dark Age this process of assimilation was sped up as the Shqiptars took advantage of the early Serb kingdom’s difficult war against the Bulgars. At this time, they took advantage of the distracted Serb state to move northward past the Shkumbi by assimilating the Serbianized Illyrians.
This process was continued until Stefan Dusan the Mighty, in whose time Latin priests at Bar begin to see, for the first time – expulsions of the Catholic Albanians, likely in retribution for their assimilation of Serbs north of the Shkumbi. Assimilation of Serbs and Albanian migrations further north of the Shkumbi continued after the death of Dusan and sped up drastically and by the time of the defeat of prince Lazar Hrebeljanovic on Kosovo Field in 1389, the Albanians had expanded by assimilating the Serb populace in most of what is now Northern Albania. Throughout the Ottoman Era Albanians expanded well into Kosovo, assimilating and driving out Serbs, mostly in the 17th century – when Arsenius Carnojevic led 36 000 ethnically cleansed Serbian families out of Kosovo. This process was a continuation of the ethnic cleansing Albanians had commited against Serbs since the EARLY DARK AGE expansions north of the Shkumbi.
stop wishing to be Macedonian
are you greece or macedonian you write your greece history dont mixs greece toughether macedonia is macedonia alexander the great is king fore macedonia not greece .greece is race 1913 greece open war to macedonia by helping of usa uk and australia take half lands of macedonia the greece gavarment make rule fore the macedonian peopple from the ocupat land to stop macedonian peopple to tolk macedonian change the name to oll the oll macedonian peopple giving oll greece names spy to the macedonian peopple who tolk own nativ macedonian language they arest and bash to dead who are you and you say the alexander the great is greece greece is worst than hitler grrece is race and terorist .1948 the peopple and ocupate by the greece .macedonian peopple oppen revolution to greece greece kill 2 milion macedonians they barryed them with buldiser stole the macedonia and own history and new you repressent macedonian history fore greece history shame of you self you are the bigs war criminal country macedonian ollways gonna be macedonia never cant be a greece 1 day macedonia gonna take back
Here are 27 books and which show that Alexander the Great is Albanian
http://alexanderthegreat.wordpress.com/
Fields of wheat, hills of blood by Dr Anastasia Karakasidou
Famous greek antro/ethnologist noted: Greeks has nothing to do with Ancient Macedonians, only Albanians can be descendant of Ancient Macedonians and Alexander the Great.
http://books.google.com/books?id=n2Sk7iefoRwC&pg=PA83&dq=Fields+of+wheat,+hills+of+blood+by+Dr+Anastasia+Karakasidou&%20sig=gtysNu46mUYF4eAwe8SINYbRIhM#v=onepage&q=&f=false
Caucasian Albanians must not to be confused with the Illyrian Albanians of modern-day Albania in the Balkans.
AVAR ETYMOLOGY
Avar
Any member of a people of undetermined origin who built an empire in eastern Europe between the Adriatic and Baltic seas and the Elbe and Dnieper rivers in the 6th–9th centuries.
Mounted nomads, possibly from Central Asia, they made the Hungarian plain the centre of their empire, from which they intervened in Germanic tribal wars, helped the Lombards overthrow allies of Byzantium, and nearly succeeded in occupying Constantinople in 626. They also fought the Merovingians and helped push the Serbs and Croats southward towards Illyrian territories. Avar decline began in the late 7th century and culminated in the destruction of their capital by Charlemagne in 796. In the early 9th century the Avars were fully incorporated in the Carolingian empire.
Caucasian Albanians must not to be confused with the Illyrian Albanians of modern-day Albania in the Balkans. The Caucasian Albanian name could be the remnant of the Macedonian expansion towards Asia. Alexander the Great had recruited Illyrian soldiers for his campaign against Persia and later India.
Alexander the Great:
http://www.geocities.com/protoillyrian/serb.html
Albania
By MaryLee Knowlton Juvenile Nonfiction – 2005
Page 19
The Human History of Albania begins in the Paleolithic period, roughly 100.000 to 10.000 B.C.
Tools retrieved from along the Ionian Sea show that an ancient civilization existed at the foot of Mount Dajti near Tirana.
More recently, around 5000 B.C, a settlement in the southern coastal area left the remains of the Huts, earthenware, and tools.
The civilization known as the Cakran Settlement also left vases decorated with painted motifs of human beings.
These people were the ancient Illyrians, a loosely formed group of Mediterranean
tribes who were ancestors to the peoples of classical Rome and Greece….
http://books.google.com/books?id=alNsb0fpX9IC&pg=PA19&dq=ancient+illyrians+were+ancestors+to+the+peoples+of+classical+Rome+and+Greece&lr#v=onepage&q=ancient%20illyrians%20were%20ancestors%20to%20the%20peoples%20of%20classical%20Rome%20and%20Greece&f=false
A Early History
Present-day Albanians probably descended from Illyrian people who lived in the southern Balkans long before Greeks, Romans, and Slavs migrated to the region.
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761561564_9/Albania.html#p69
The Albanian language
is the oldest Indo-European idiom
according to WEBSTER’S NEW TWENTIETH CENTURY DICTIONARY, Unabridged Second Edition, De Luxe Color, William Collins and World Publishing Co., Inc., 1975,
http://www.geocities.com/ga57/albania/tree.html
WHO WERE THE ILLYRIANS
SPECTACULAR DISPLAY OF POKORNY’S INDO EUROPEAN ETYMOLOGICAL DICTIONARY
http://www.geocities.com/protoillyrian/
http://www.thelosttruth.altervista.org/SitoEnglish/pelasgian_etruscan_english.html
the Albanians (Descendants of the Illyrians) are the modern descendants of the Pelasgians, one of most ancient civilizations that lived Europe.
http://linguistlist.org/ask-ling/oldest.html
Ask-A-Linguist FAQ Oldest Language
The linguistic and archaeological evidence suggests that Albanians were a distinct people for even longer than that. So Albanian has probably existed for several millennia, but has only been written down for 500 years. With a twist of fate, Albanian might be considered very “old” and Greek pretty “new”
Archaeology and language, Volume 1; Volume 3
Page 232 and Page 233
By R. Blench, Matthew Spriggs – Social Science – 1999 – 301 pages
Albanian of the Caucasus: not the same as Albanian of the Balkans.
Illyrian may be ancestral to Albanian
http://books.google.com/books?id=4PLgi681mSoC&pg=PA233&lpg=PA233&dq=albanian+illyrian+language&source=bl&ots=5THv5Upabx&sig=cffiD3vhZbW7V3U7ikHDJbCaPi4&hl=en&ei=RFqYSoGvK8Kd8Qa0ham8BQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8#v=onepage&q=albanian%20illyrian%20language&f=false
Bibliotheca classica: or, A dictionary of all the principal names and terms …
By John Lemprière
PAGE 18
ALBANOPOUS, the chief city of the Albani,.» small Illyrian tribe, from which have sprung the modern Albanians, who have extended themselves in such a manner as to cover the whole of Epirus . Cram. Or.—Ptol
ALBION, a name of Britain . The derivation of this name has been supposed from every language almost, in which analogous sounds were to be found.
ALBA, I. a city of the Marsi, in Italy , which received the distinctive name of Fucentia, or Fucensis, from its vicinity to the Fusine lake, nearthe northern shore of which itstood.
After it became a Roman colony it was chiefly selected as a residence for the captives of rank or consequence, on account of its strong and secluded situation
ALBIS, the Elbe, a river that divided ancient Germany in the middle, flowing between the Weser and the Oder, the Visurgis and Viadrus of antiquity.
http://books.google.com/books?id=K4wJAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA18&dq=german+tribes+are+called+alban&lr=&client=firefox-a#v=onepage&q=&f=false
The history of Scotland … to the middle of the ninth century
By Alexander Low
Page 46
He Bays, that this region, which is now corruptly known by the name of Scotia, was anciently called Albany .
Quod illa regio, yure nunc corrupte vocatur Scotia, antiquitus appellabatur Albania .
http://books.google.com/books?id=mnsBAAAAQAAJ&pg=RA1-PA46&dq=who+is+called+albany&lr=#v=onepage&q=&f=false
Winston’s cumulative loose-leaf encyclopedia: a comprehensive …, Volume 1
Edited by Charles Morris, Thomas Edward Finegan 1921
Ancient Italy, the most celebrated of ‘which was Alba. <inga. a city of Lat-ium ;
according to tradition, built by As-canius, the son of ^Eneas, 300 years before the foundation of Rome ; at one time the most powerful city of Latiuni .
It ultimately fell under the dominion of Rome , when the town was destroyed, it ¡я
said. In later times its site became covered with villas of wealthy Romans.
Alba (anciently Alba 1'ompeia), a *' town of Northern Italy , about 30 miles 8. E. of Turin , is the see of a bishop, has a cathedral, bishop's palace, church with fresco paintings by Perugino. etc.
http://books.google.com/books?pg=PT121&dq=The%20Albanians%20are%20apparently%20the%20most%20ancient%20race%20in%20Balkan%20Peninsula&lr=&client=firefox-a&id=B0QOAAAAYAAJ&output=text
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://babaev.tripod.com/tree/balkan1.gif&imgrefurl=http://babaev.tripod.com/tree/illyrian.html&h=293&w=234&sz=7&tbnid=HoBuV7B-B8PGaM:&tbnh=115&tbnw=92&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dillyria%2B%2B%2Bmap&hl=en&usg=__A6g6nmCA-dv_R3ftKVr5Qh1sHLE=&ei=ZwuCSr7CEeD7tgfp_NTJCg&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=2&ct=image
The only Illyrians who remained in South West Balkans were Albanians or Arbers, still living there and speaking a language descended from Illyrian
Map from “Former Yugoslavia: A Map Folio”, U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, 1992.
Map Eastern Europe 1878 (468K)
The Ancient Illyria (V-IV Century b.C.)
http://foreignaffairs.tripod.com/armillotta/mappa04.html
Albania Past and Present
By Constantine Anastasi Chekrezi, Charles Downer Hazen
Page 58
But, however that may be, it is generally recognized to-day that the Albanians are the most ancient race in southeastern Europe. All indications point to the fact that they are the descendants of the earliest Aryan immigrants who were represented in historical times by the kindred Illyrians, Macedonians, and Epirots.
According to the opinion of Dr. Hahn, the noted German ethnologist and linguist, who has made the most extensive research on the subject of the origin of the Albanians, the Macedonians and rote formed the core of the pre-Hellenic, Tyrr] Pelasgian population, which inhabited the soul portion of the Peninsula and extended its limi Thrace and Italy. The Illyrians were also P gians, but in a wider sense. Moreover, Hahn thinks that of these cognate races, which ar< scribed by the ancient Greek writers as "barbar and "non-Hellenic, ".the Illyrians were the pro tors of the Ghegs, or northern Albanians, anc Epirots the progenitors of the Tosks, or souther: banians.
1 This opinion of Dr. Hahn is borne 01 the statement of Strabo 2 that the Via Egnat:-¿Egitana, which he describes as forming the I dary between the Illyrians and the Epirots,] tically corresponds with the course of the Shkumbi, which now separates the Ghegs fron Tosks.
The same geographer states that the rots were also called Pelasgians.3 The Pelas Zeus, whose memory survives even to-day ii appellation of God as "Zot" by the modern Al ans, was worshiped at Dodona, where the mos mous oracle of ancient times was situated. neighborhood of the sanctuary was called Pelas On a cursory examination of the terms "G" and "Tosk," it would appear that the name "T is possibly identical with "Truscus, Etrusc while the form "Tyrrhenus" perhaps survives in Tirana, the principal city of Central Albania, for which no other current explanation exists.
http://books.google.com/books?id=xHxG6U_-LLwC&pg=PA58&lpg=PA58&dq=is+albanian+oldest+language+books&source=bl&ots=fv0uhpEa7v&sig=NJ#v=onepage&q=&f=false
The Encyclopaedia britannica
edited by Hugh Chisholm Encyclopedias and dictionaries – 1910
page 483
The Albanians are apparently the most ancient race in southeastern Europe. History and legend afford no record of their arrival in the Balkan Peninsula. They are probably the descendants of the earliest Aryan, immigrants, who were represented in historical times by the kindred Illyrians, Macedonians and Epirots; the Macedonians and Epirots are believed by Hahn to have formed the core of the pre-HeQenic Tyrrheno-Pelasgian population which inhabited the southern portion of the peninsula and extended its limits to Thrace and Italy. The Illyrians were also " Pelasgian," but in a wider sense. Of these cognate races, which are described by the Greek writers as barbarous or non-Hellenic, the Illyrians and Epirots, he thinks, were respectively the progenitors of the Ckegt, or northern, and the Tusks, or southern, Albanians. The Via Egnatia, which Strabo (vii. fragment 3) describes as forming the boundary between the Illyrians and Epirots, practically corresponds with the course of the Shkumb, which now separates the Ghegs and the Tosks. The same geographer (v. 1.211) states that the Epirots were also called Pelasgians; the Pelasgian Zeus was worshipped at Dodona (Homer,//. xvi. 234), and the neighbourhood of the sanctuary was called Pclasgia (Herodotus ii. 56). The meaning of the term " Pelasgian " is, however, too obscure to furnish a basis for ethnographical speculation; in the time of Herodotus it may have already come to denote a period rather than a race. The name Task is possibly identical with Tuscut, Etruseus, while the form Tyrrhene, perhaps survives in Tirana
http://books.google.com/books?id=0PgtAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA483&dq=Is++Albanian+Pelasgians&client=firefox-a#v=onepage&q=&f=false
Dictionary of Greek and Roman geography
By William Smith
Page 37
The ancient Illyrians are unquestionably the ancestors of the people generally known in Europe by the name Albanians, but who are called by the Turks " Arnants," and by themselves " Skrpetares," which means in their language " mountaineers," or " dwellers on rocks," and inhabit the greater part of ancient Illyricnm and Epirns. They have a peculiar language, and constitute a particular race, which is very distinct from the Slavonian inhabitants who border on them towards the N. The ancients, as has been observed, distinguished the Illyrians from the Epirots, and have given no intimations that they were in any way connected. But the Albanians, who inhabit both Illyricum and Epirns, are one people, whose language is only varied by slight modifications of dialect The Illyrians appear to have been pressed southwards by Slavonian hordes, who settled ill Dalmatia. Driven out from their old territories, they extended themselves towards the S., where they now inhabit xiany districts which never belonged to them in former times, and have swallowed up the Epirots, and extinguished their language.
http://books.google.com/books?id=GmoUAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA37&dq=is+albanian+illyrian&lr=#v=onepage&q=&f=false
U.S. Department of state
Scholars believe the Albanian people are descended from a non-Slavic, non-Turkic group of tribes known as Illyrians, who arrived in the Balkans around 2000 BC
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/3235.htm
THE HISTORY OF AUSTRIA
Illyrians, people of Indo-European stock who are considered ancestors of modern Albanians, settled on the northern and eastern coasts of the Adriatic Sea . Included among them were the Dalmatians and the Pannonians. Eventually, the ancient region of Illyria would include the western part of the Balkan Peninsula from the Danube River to Epirus
http://www.geocities.com/historyofaustria/history.html
albanians want to be macedonians LOL
Adele, lets say that albanians are descedants to the ilyrians.
Do your know what Philip – The Macedonian and his son Alexander The Macedonian did to ilyrians?
They wiped them out like ants. 3000 killed ilirians in a single battle with the Macedonians. They ( ilyrians ) killed Macedonian king Perdica III in battle who was trying to occupie ilyrian territory north of macedonia.
General Parmenion had defeated the combined Illyrian and Paeonian armies
Philip ordered Alexander to begin mustering an army for a campaign in Greece. Concerned by the possibility of other Greek states intervening, Alexander made it look as if he was preparing to attack Illyria instead. During this turmoil, the Illyrians took the opportunity to invade Macedonia, but Alexander repelled the invaders
News then reached Alexander that Cleitus, King of Illyria, and King Glaukias of the Taulanti were in open revolt against Macedonian authority. Marching west into Illyria, Alexander defeated each in turn, forcing Cleitus and Glaukias to flee with their armies, leaving Alexander’s northern frontier secure.
So tell me your freakin “falsificating history” logic how can macedonians be ilyrians?
Have you ever read the Holy Bible? Macedonians are mentioned 38 times, 2000 years ago St. Paul came into MACEDONIA
In The Acts, 15 of the Bible, is the story of the vision which appeared to Paul in the night…saying, Come over into Macedonia and help us. Translated to mean a plea for help, this “Macedonian cry”.
MACEDONIA IS THE FIRST CHRISTIAN COUNTRY IN EUROPE, the biggest proof of that are the OLDEST MONASTERIES AND CHURCHES IN MACEDONIA
and ofcourse the religion of the REAL MACEDONIANS
ORTODOX CHRISTIAN.
On the oposite side are the “albanians” that live in Macedonia,Kosovo and they are muslims, and they got no connection in sense of culture,customs and religion with the Macedonians
i understand that you wish to be Macedonian 🙂
We are Proud Nation with alot of enemies just like in ancient times…
According to National Geographic DNA Project we Macedonians have m173 haplogroup, that put us in the first inhabitants of European Soil around 35-000 years B.C
Another Proof of the origin
The research findings of the Swiss institute IGENEA has FRUSTRATED the
“Black Athenians”. The institute which deals with genetic research of the
European peoples and one of the leading institutions in the area of DNA
analysis, has confirmed that the contemporary Macedonians are direct
descendants of the ancient Macedonians.
To a question”: “What are the roots of the Slavomacedonians”, by a female
from “Black Athena”, its official forum answers: “Before else, they are
Macedonians and NOT Slavomacedonians, as you call them for political
reasons. The largest portion of the Macedonians are direct descendants of
the ancient Macedonians and much smaller part have slav origins. The
institute backs up its answers with its research evidence.
For the “Black Athenian” frustration to be even greater (if that is possible
:-)), IGENEA “uncovers” that only 32% of them have “hellenic”, macedonian
and arabic origins. 31% have celtic origins, 12% germanic and slavic roots
and 11% illyrian roots.
In respect of the “Albanians”, double the percentage (40%) of “Bosnians”
have illyrian origins, according to the DNA research by IGENEA.
ALL ABOUT THE TRUTH OF MACEDONIANS
http://www.macedoniantruth.org/
Okayy it was good not true tho
i mean come on Alexander is 150% Macedonian
Greeks really needa forget it.
Macedonia wasw really big
greek stole Macedonia
soo kbyee
everywhere is the world at school they teach you that he is Macedonian but not in Greek well duhh !
ALEXANDER IS MACEDONIA NOT GREEK
Oh and they made us change our flag, and now the name cuz they signed to give a city back to macedonia in the b.c and now that time is comeing up
so if we change our name they cant give it backk
there not going to change itt
Alexander is ALBANIA, GREAT ALEXANDER
ALBANIA FOREVER IN BALKAN…
ALANA Nr. 1 in th WORLD
Yes! AlLANA number 1!
Bosnia
Regarding the roots of Bosnians, Dodan notes that Bosnia is historically a Croatian land, that Bosnia belonged to Croatia in the early mediaeval times, that the majority of Bosnian population used to be and are still Croats, and that mediaeval Bosnian kings were ethnic Croats. Even their surnames end in “-an”. Dodan quotes Draganovic’s and Mandic’s research according to which 95 % of Muslims and 30% of Serbs are actually Croats. He also elucidates the Iranian roots of the Croatian people (Dodan 1994).
Serbs
Now, we turn to the connection with the Serbs. Several historians maintain that the Serbian ruling caste shared the same origin as the Croats. Prof. Malcolm recently wrote a book “Bosnia” (Malcolm 1996), in which he clearly elucidates the Iranic origin of both Serbs and Croats. For instance, Prof. Salzman notes while reviewing Malcolm’s first chapter:
“The Croats and Serbs (who were either Slavic tribes with Iranian ruling castes or Iranian tribes with Slavic subjects) arrived in the Balkans in the 620s, a land already occupied by the Slavs.” (Salzman 1999)
The view of Prof. Malcolm is thus that the Croats and Serbs were originally Iranic speakers who adopted a Slavic language (Malcolm 1996).
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/common_origin_croats_serbs_jats.php
References:
1. Beshevliev 1967: “Iranian elements in the Proto-Bulgarians” by V. Beshevliev (in Bulgarian)(Antichnoe Obschestvo, Trudy Konferencii po izucheniyu problem antichnosti, str. 237-247, Izdatel’stvo “Nauka”, Moskva 1967, AN SSSR, Otdelenie Istorii) http://members.tripod.com/~Groznijat/fadlan/besh.html
2. Dobrovich 1963: “Volk an der Grenze – Schicksal und Auftrag. Zur Geschichte der burgenlaendischen Kroaten,” (People on the Border – History of the Burgenland Croats), by Johann Dobrovich, Burgenlaendische Forschungen, vol.47, Prov. Archive of Burgenland, Eisenstadt 1963, tr by Frank Teklits; http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BURGENLAND-NEWSLETTER/1999-07/0931520170
3. Dodan 1994: “Bosna and Hercegovina, a Croatian land”, by Sime Dodan, Meditor, Zagreb, 1994.
4. Dvornik 1956: “The Slavs. Their Early History and Civilization.” by F. Dvornik, American Academy of Arts and Sciences, Boston, USA., 1956.
5. Guldescu 1964: “History of Medieval Croatia”, by Stanko Guldescu, Mouton (pub), The Hague, 1964; http://www.raceandhistory.com/Science/croatia.htm
6. Hina 2000: “Scholars assert Croats are Descendants of Iranian Tribes”, Hina News Agency, Zagreb, Oct 15, 2000 (http://www.hina.hr)
7. Lozinksi 1964: “The Name Slav” by B. Philip Lozinski (Essays in Russian History, Archon Books,1964) http://members.tripod.com/~Groznijat/fadlan/lozinski.html
8. Malcolm 1996: “Bosnia: A Short History”, by Noel Malcolm, New York University Press, New York, 1994; 1996, new ed.
9. Mandic 1970: “Croats and Serbs – Two old and different nations,” by Dr. O. Dominik Mandic, Chicago 1970, Nakladni Zavod Matice Hrvatske, Zagreb, 1990; tr. Vicko Rendic & Jacques Perret, http://www.magma.ca/~rendic/
10. Sakac 1937: “Del origen caucaso-iranio de los croatas” (“Of the Caucasian-Iranian ancestry of the Croats”) by S. Sakac, Zagreb 1937.
11. Sakac 1949: “Iranisehe Herkunft des kroatischen Volksnamens”, (“Iranian origin of the Croatian Ethnonym”) S. Sakac, Orientalia Christiana Periodica. XV (1949), 813-340.
12. Sakac 1955: “The Iranian origin of the Croatians according to Constantine Porphyrogenitus”, by S. Sakac, in “The Croatian nation in its struggle for freedom and independence” (Chicago, 1955); for other works by Sakac, cf. “Prof. Dr. Stjepan Krizin Sakac – In memoriam” by Milan Blazekovic, http://www.studiacroatica.com/revistas/050/0500501.htm
13. Salzman 1999: “Book Review: Noel Malcolm, Bosnia” by Todd Salzman, Creighton Univ.; J. Religion & Society, Vol.1 (1999), http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/1999/1999-r1.html
14. Sara 1978: “The Scythian Origin of the Jat-Sikh”, I.Sara, The Sikh Review, 1978, pp. 15-27 (pt.1), pp. 214-233 (pt.2) (http://www.sikhreview.org)
15. Schmitt 1985: “Iranica Proto-Bulgarica” (in German), Academie Bulgare des Sciences, Linguistique Balkanique, XXVIII (1985), l, p.13-38; http://members.tripod.com/~Groznijat/bulgar/schmitt.html
16. Shrava 1981: “The Sakas in India”, S.Shrava, Pranava Prakashan, New Delhi 1981.
17. Sulimirski 1970: “The Sarmatians,” by T.Sulimirski, Thames & Hudson, London, UK, 1970.
18. Tomicic 1998: “The old-Iranian origin of Croats”, Symposium proceedings, Zagreb 24.6.1998, ed. Prof. Zlatko Tomicic & Andrija-Zeljko Lovric, Cultural center of I.R. of Iran in Croatia, Zagreb, 1999, ISBN 953-6301-05-5, http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati/croats2.PDF
19. Toynbee 1934: “A Study of History,” by A. Toynbee, Vol. 2., Oxford University Press, London, 1939, 1st pubd in 1934; cited by Sunny Singh (pers. comm.)
20. Vernadsky 1952: “Der sarmatische Hintergrund der germanischen Voelkerwanderung,” (Sarmatian background of the Germanic Migrations), G. Vernadsky, Saeculum, II (1952), 340-347.
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/common_origin_croats_serbs_jats.php
Albania and the Albanians
by M. Edith Durham, Harry Hodgkinson, Bejtullah D. Destani – History 261 pages
Page 83
The Albanians are among the very oldest inhabitants of the Balkan Peninsula. Classical authors give the names of very many tribes which dwelt in those lands when history dawns.
The Greeks classed them as “barbarians” and they spoke a non-Greek tongue.
They were united in groups under native kings, and of these groups some of the most important were the Macedonians, the Illyrians, and the Epirotes.
According to Strabo, all three spoke the same language. And it is from the Illyrians and the Epirotes that the Albanians of to-day descend modern Albania, in all probability, derives from the language of Alexander the great and king Pyrrus.
Illyria and Epirus in old days, extended from Trieste along the whole of the Adriatic coast, comprising at one time all Bosnia and the Herzegovina, a large part of modern Serbia and all Montenegro, as well as modern Albania.
http://books.google.com/books?id=8KCZhBWVkgMC&pg=PA83&dq=The+Greeks+classed+them+as+%22+barbarians,%22+and+they+spoke+a+non-Greek+tongue&lr=#v=onepage&q=The%20Greeks%20classed%20them%20as%20%22%20barbarians%2C%22%20and%20they%20spoke%20a%20non-Greek%20tongue&f=false
World history
By Hutton Webster
Page 530
No other part of Europe of equal extent contains so many different peoples as the Balkan Peninsula.
The original inhabitants are represented to-day by the Albanians
http://books.google.com/books?id=cboXAAAAIAAJ&pg=RA1-PA530&dq=the+albanians+are+the+oldest+inhabitants+of+the+balkan&lr=#v=onepage&q=the%20albanians%20are%20the%20oldest%20inhabitants%20of%20the%20balkan&f=false
The Adriatic review
By Fan Stylian Noli
Page 103 History – 1918
The Albanians, the most ancient race of Europe, have been there from time immemorial long before the Greeks and the Slavs had come into the Balkan Peninsula.
They are the direct descendants of the old Illyrians, Macedonians and Epirotes, and their language is the only living specimen of the tongues spoken by the aboriginal Aryan settlers of Southeastern Europe.
They are a distinct race with distinct national characteristics, customs and traditions.
http://books.google.com/books?id=dyopAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA2-PA103&dq=The+Albanians,+the+most+ancient+race+of+Europe,+have+been+there+from+time+immemorial+long+before+the+Greeks+and+the+Slavs+had+come+into+the+Balkan+Peninsula#v=onepage&q=The%20Albanians%2C%20the%20most%20ancient%20race%20of%20Europe%2C%20have%20been%20there%20from%20time%20immemorial%20long%20before%20the%20Greeks%20and%20the%20Slavs%20had%20come%20into%20the%20Balkan%20Peninsula&f=false
Embassy of the Czech Republic in Tirana
The Albanian Language
The Albanian Language A more concrete evidence of the Illyrian-Pelasgian origin of the Albanians is supplied by the study of the Albanian language.
Notwithstanding certain points of resemblance in structure and phonetics, the Albanian language is entirely distinct from the tongues spoken by the neighboring natonalities.
This language is particularly interesting as the only surviving representative of the so-called Thraco-Illyrian group of languages, which formed the primitive speech of the inha
A more concrete evidence of the Illyrian-Pelasgian origin of the Albanians is supplied by the study of the Albanian language. Notwithstanding certain points of resemblance in structure and phonetics, the Albanian language is entirely distinct from the tongues spoken by the neighboring natonalities.
This language is particularly interesting as the only surviving representative of the so-called Thraco-Illyrian group of languages, which formed the primitive speech of the inhabitants of the Balkan Peninsula.
http://www.mzv.cz/tirana/en/about_albania/the_albanian_language.html
On the expedition of Alexander the Great, 333-323 BC
Olympia, mother of Alexander was Epirote so language of Alexander was Albanian language, his mother language. In the book Enigma, the author insists on what the word means epirot Albanian and not Hellenic. “Epirotica lingua” always meant “Albanian language” and never “Ellhnikh glvssa.
King Philip of Macedonia, father of Alexander, was born in Argos, but in fact located in Argosin that Orestie, on the borders of Epirus and Illyria, (Alexander the Great, p. 14. G. Rado, 1931). Alexander the Great, Albanian origin and Hellenic in education.
In Greek language lessons followed by Aristoti, an Albanian from the town Stagire. Through the mother tongue, Albanian or Epirote, Alexander gave courage and commanded his generals during his military expedition. With this language he was talking to friends and soldiers in his Extraordinary army, language that was understood by all. Most of the population was illiterate and Modern Greek was unknown, because it began to form about ten centuries later.
Enigma
Robert d’ Angely
Whereas in 1990, in a cocktail in Washington it was my honor to have a long conversation with the Pakistani’s ambassador in Washington and I asked him: “Tell me does it look like that the family Buta seems to be with European face that it is whiter from other Pakistanis”.
He told me that they are Greeks and remained there after Alexander, they even have the monument of Alexander the Great in their town and that they are called Pashtun-Pashto-Invader(Pushtues-Albanian).
http://www.xhakli.com/2004/11/10/sensational-discovery-of-iliro-albanians.php
This article is published in the magazine “The Bridge” page25.
Rej Jackly-Columbia University
hahahha pathetic albanians stop wishing to be macedonian
who tha fuck is alexander the great???
i think alexander was a great person wish he hadnt died by a fever but life is life i guess fell free to wright back
i fucked alexander the great right in the bum whole!!!! and the funny part is he liked it!!!@#! And for all you cock suckers that think i am gay…. well there is only one way to find out go ask ur daddie!!!!!
this is so fucking awesome
my number is 864-270-6080 and my name is Barry, hit me up any time
Excavating Pela
Page 32- 33
The provenience newly found in the recent excavation at the site of ancient Pela, the one –times capital city of Alexander the Great, brought to light a document recording a speech made by him.
These documents were written only in Thrace –Illyrian, and not in Greek an enlightening fact. Although the archeological discoveries add valuable knowledge to the world’s history, the geek government loath to give up a national hero is understandably reluctant to release the information to the world.
All photographers and newsmen were barred from the place of excavation. However, unable to decipher the Illyrian alphabet themselves, they searched for, and found, an obscure professor from the University of Vienna, Austria who rendered the translation for them. Little by little the information of the find has been disseminated away.
The document reveals the (Bessa –Bessa) pledge made by Kleito, son of King Bardhylus (Bardhyli) of Illyria, and his Illyrian troops, united with the Macedonian forces would fight the over-running Persians, and thereby making an end to the feud, which apparently had existed between themselves. “Brother fight brother, without good reason, the document stated
The speech itself, seems to have been made by King Alexander in a peace council held at the capital city, Malossia (Malsia) Passaron, it appears, was the only plave wich was government, as well as peace and war, seemed to have been there.
The pledge reveals many other interesting facts concerning this site of Pledges.
In the assembly, Alexander got to his feet and invited Prince Kleitos to serve with him, and the General and Alexander shook right hands , placing their other over their heart, after the approved form of the day.
Alexander‘s speech was as follows: Alexander the great spoke Albanian language
100% Albanian
“Neve jemi nga. Nje ate dhe prej njememex Illyria, Thraco Malsia dhe Macedonia . Kemi nje gjak nje gjuhe. Ndryshojme jo shume ne petka, illyrianet veshin ne krahe lekure dele dhe neve veshim burro kapa prej leshi te dhivet. Me bessa – bessa qe tani sapo beme me General Kliton, dhe me ndihmene trimave Illyrian, Malsore dhe macedonasit,
Siguroj darmimin. Armikut, Persian kete here dote mundim te perhapim ndryten qutetrore tere botes qe jane ne arresyre”
Translate
Alexander‘s speech was as follows:
“We are from a father and a mother of Illyria , Macedonia, Thraco,and Malsia. We have a blood and a language
Not change much in garments, leather arms Illyrian wear in sheep and clothe us burro kappa goat wool.
With Bess – Bess just now there was the General Kliton, and with the help of brave Illyrian, highlands, and Macedonian
Assure the destruction of the enemy Persian and this time will be spread all over the world the light of civilization that are in darkness”
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30538382/Albanian-Antology-et-al-some-chapters-Chika-John
i just hope that we will not find out he is Kosovar … or Albanian 😉
[…] am reminded of the famous anecdote about Alexander the Great.. Story goes like: Alexander, who set out to conquer the work, instructed […]
Alexander the Great in ALBANIA
The National Currency of Albania is called ‘lek’. The lek has taken its name from Alexander the Great, because LEK is the short popular name of Alexander amongst Albanians.
What is noteworthy to add is that Alexander’s coins from glorious Macedonian past are preserved down 19 century amongst Albanians.
Albanians used those coins as tools of monetary exchange. They called them as ‘Lek’.
The best wishes, I liked them and learnt a lot.
thank you
Zamir Saar, Afghanistan
This is the best note i have ever read.
Alexander as his name goes was indeed great,
but has come to realised the the world is vanity.
This is the mystery behind the world.
You Skopians are morons. These are some of the questions you ask. How can somebody be a Greek and kill the Greeks? If he was greek why the hell would he conquer his own people?
Are you that stupid, people of the same race still kill each other today, back then they were all states and wanted to control each other. Did Spartans not kill Athenians, they were all Greek. They wanted to rule Greece because Greece was the heart beat of the world in those days. They all spoke Greek and their culture was also Greek although they had some differences just like people from the same country do today ie people in Madrid have differences to people on Barcelona, be it their language or cultural dress etc, but both those cities are in Spain. Do Iraquis today not kill other Iraquis (sunni v Shiah). etc etc
In the Ancient times people were more barbaric than today, we are more civilised now and people dont go around killing others for land to conquer. But they do this through propaganda, and this is what is happening now, the Skopian Government is trying to claim not only the name of an Ancient Greek state as its own but also its heros like Alexander. Alexander is a Greek name from Alexandros. Alex = protector Andros = man. Protector of man. Macedonia never was a country it was a region, back in the ancient times, people asscociated themselves from the region they belonged to. ie, Spartans from Sparta, Athenians from Athens, Thesbians from Thebes. But what they all had in common was one thing, they were all Greek and considered themselves Greek and spoke Greek. Alexander came to power claiming to unite all Greeks and be the king of Greece, and to spread Greek culture accross the world, which he suceeded in doing.
Even to this day you will find people in places like Pakistan and India that lay claim to have Greek heritage. His mother Olympia was a Greek from Epirus and his father was a Greek from Macedon. I feel sorry for your people who do not have a history and have to steal anothers in order to make it yours. If you are Macedonian than in reality you are Greek.
You people need to get a dose of reality, because you are so blinded by your own propaganda from your past leaders and your grandparents that you fail to see the truth. The sad thing is you will never learn and one thing is for sure you will never get Pella and Thessaloniki.
Whatever!
Albania, the foundling state of Europe By Wadham Peacock – History – 1914 – 256 pages
Page 186
The sister of Alexander, king of the Molossi, was the mother of Alexander the Great; the men who marched to Babylon, Persia and India were the ancestors of the Albanians ; and Epirus and Illyria shared in the anarchy which followed the death of the great conqueror, who has himself been claimed as a Shqipetar, and with considerable justice
http://books.google.com/books?id=Zb5DAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA186&dq=which+followed+the+death+of+the+great+conqueror,+who+has+himself+been+claimed+as+a+Shkypetar,+and+with+considerable+justice&lr=&ei=tAzBS8HCG5TqzATPuJjqCg&cd=1#v=onepage&q=which%20followed%20the%20death%20of%20the%20great%20conqueror%2C%20who%20has%20himself%20been%20claimed%20as%20a%20Shkypetar%2C%20and%20with%20considerable%20justice&f=false
Also, Strabon (7.5.1) states that: “What is now called Macedonia was in earlier times called Emathia. And it took its present name from Macedon, one of its early chieftains.
And there was also a city Emathia close to the sea. Now a part of this country was taken and held by certain of the Epeirotes and the Illyrians, but most by the Bottiaei and the Thracians.”
The most reasonable and logical explanation regarding the etymology of the name of the Ancient Macedonia is found in the language of Illyrians and Epirotes, who were the ethnic inhabitants of Ancient Macedonia.
The very name of Macedonia, formerly known as ‘Emathia,’ derives in all probability from the Albanian word “E Madhia”, meaning “The Greatest”. (Larned et al 1922)
In a letter sent to the Prince of Taranto, George Kastriota Scanderbeg, the Albanian National Hero, reaffirms himself as a descendant of Alexander the Great and of Pirro of Epirus:
“I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish.
If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty.
From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep? (illyrians n.d)
George – Gorgijia – Macedonian – Mijak from western Macedonia orthodox christian
check his father and his mother names
George is written in English, his really name is Gjergji , a name that is widespread in Albania from south to north.
Scanderbeg: From Ottoman Captive to Albanian Hero – Harry Hodgkinson
This is the first biography of the Albanian national hero Scanderbeg (1403-1468), published in England for more than four hundred years.
The son of a prince of North Albania, he was educated in the Muslim faith as a hostage at the court of Sultan Murad II.
http://www.wantitall.co.za/Books/Scanderbeg-From-Ottoman-Captive-to-Albanian-Hero__1850439419
Tony Wheeler’s bad lands
Tony Wheeler – 2007
Page 65
Back in the 15th century, Kastrioti, the son of an Albanian prince, was held hostage by the Ottoman Turks, converted to Islam and took the name Iskander, from Alexander the Great
http://books.google.com/books?id=_Wv4KWzCumcC&pg=PA65&dq=Kastrioti,+the+son+of+an+Albanian+prince&hl=en&ei=9aAjTbLAGcH88Aaw7qH5DQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDcQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=Kastrioti%2C%20the%20son%20of%20an%20Albanian%20prince&f=false
Researches in the highlands of Turkey: including visits to mounts Volume 1
By Henry Fanshawe Tozer
Page 214
The historical heroes of Albania are Alexander the Great, Pyrrhus, and Scanderbeg; and in modern times, if it is allowable to mention one so mean in connection with those great names—Ali Pasha.
http://books.google.com/books?id=kf1EAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA214&dq=The+historical+heroes+of+Albania+are+Alexander+the+Great,+Pyrrhus,+and+Scanderbeg%3B+and+in+modern+times&hl=en&ei=XuUfTOSiCIH7lwfFkantDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=The%20historical%20heroes%20of%20Albania%20are%20Alexander%20the%20Great%2C%20Pyrrhus%2C%20and%20Scanderbeg%3B%20and%20in%20modern%20times&f=false
The Independent, Volume 107
Leonard Bacon, Joseph Parrish Thompson, Richard Salter Storrs – 1921
Education – 1921
Page 9
The Albanian race was settled in the Balkan Peninsula before the Hellenes arrived and centuries upon centuries before the Serbs were heard of in the civilized world.
Pyrrhus, Alexander the Great, Scanderbeg were of that race.
Albanians settled in Greece within comparatively recent times have given modern Greece some of her best admirals and generals, and the Albanian contingents are the best (the Cretans possibly excepted) in the Greek army.
The Albanians are a very brave and capable people.
http://books.google.com/books?id=3fflAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA9&dq=The+Albanian+race+was+settled+in+the+Balkan+Peninsula+before+the+Hellenes+arrived+and+centuries+upon+centuries+before+the+Serbs&lr=&ei=LzsETJbeJpiWyASauqGkDQ&cd=1#v=onepage&q=The%20Albanian%20race%20was%20settled%20in%20the%20Balkan%20Peninsula%20before%20the%20Hellenes%20arrived%20and%20centuries%20upon%20centuries%20before%20the%20Serbs&f=false
History of Herodotus, Volume 3
1862
Page 440
They were not, however, limited to the three countries which have been mentioned.
Attica was Pelasgic at a very remote period;’ and a Pelasgian seems to have preceded an lllyrian population in Macedonia.
http://books.google.com/books?id=ZCQTAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA440&dq=They+were+not,+however,+limited+to+the+three+countries+which+have+been+mentioned.+Attica+was+Pelasgic+at+a+very+remote+period&hl=en&ei=1ec0TLeUOYGKlwfMrIXVBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=They%20were%20not%2C%20however%2C%20limited%20to%20the%20three%20countries%20which%20have%20been%20mentioned.%20Attica%20was%20Pelasgic%20at%20a%20very%20remote%20period&f=false
Journal of the Ethnological Society of London, Volume 1
By Ethnological Society (London)
1869
Page 324
1.The Epirotes and Macedonians were, in Strabo’s time, ungreek or barbarian.
2. Epirotes, Macedonians, and Illyrians are kindred races.
3. The Epirotes and Macedonians were the kernel of the TyrrhenoPelasgic race.
4. lllyrian=Pelasgian in a wider sense.
At p. 12, Von Hahn especially defines that the present divisions of the Albanians, the Tosks and Guegs, actually represent the Epirotes and Illyrians.
http://books.google.com/books?id=sLU6AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA324&dq=The+Epirotes+and+Macedonians+were,+in+Strabo%27s+time,+in+Greek+or+barbarian.&hl=en&ei=feo0TKfXKoS0lQfgxanTBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=The%20Epirotes%20and%20Macedonians%20were%2C%20in%20Strabo%27s%20time%2C%20in%20Greek%20or%20barbarian.&f=false
the word Krat Eroi is an albanian word for the Strongest ..today in Albanian language it will be “Krat Heroi”..hero mean great and kra mean hands ..both hands is Krat-.. the strongest hands
“Kratisto” (that is, “To the strongest!”) or “Krat’eroi” (to the stronger).”
“Се борат за иднината, а не минатото”
The true history of mankind will be written only when Albanians participate in it’s writing.
Maximilian Lambertz,
Albanien erzählt: ein Einblick in die albanische Literatur. Übersetzt und
herausgegeben. Literatur der Volksdemokratien, 7
(Berlin: Volk und Welt 1956)
191 pp.
The true history of mankind will be written only when Albanians participate in it’s writing.
Maximilian Lambertz,
Albanien erzählt: ein Einblick in die albanische Literatur. Übersetzt und
herausgegeben. Literatur der Volksdemokratien, 7
(Berlin: Volk und Welt 1956)
191 pp.
There were no slavic people until 800 years after Alexanders death. The only other people in the region were the ilyrians (albanians). Macodonia was a Greek State as were the Spartans, Cretans Rhodesians and many others. Yes these states would fight against each other just look at what happened to Troy which was also a Greek city.
Alexanders father Philip was actually from Argos the most oldest city in europe, Alexander himself said he was a Helene on many occasions and even took place in the Olympic games which you had to be greek to take part.
This debate has dragged on long enough. You shouldall go to Verinia where the tomb of King Philip is and look at the paintings and writing. Its all in Greek, the paintings depict greek gods and culture.
Its simple, like Sparta, Crete and all the other greek states macedonia was also greek. They spoke greek wrote believed in greek gods etc.
Its sad to see slavic people try and claim that Macedonia as there country. There is too much proof to support that Macedonia was and stil is a greek state.
So go and fuck yourselves if you think other wise you slavic square headed albanian cunts
Can you all NONESENSE people quit it ?!
Really, it’s no big deal whether the King is Greek or not or whether the story is true or fake of out of the world !
You keep commenting about how WRONG the writer is aren’t you ?!
Well you missed the point.
The story tells a VERY GOOD LESSON and it’s the MAIN REASON why this kind of story is made.
Thanks to the writer 🙂
To the people who commented and even attached references,
GOOD JOB!!
Some people are like that.
They JUDGE literally
locate the LITTLEST mistakes in EVERY thing.
JUST TO PROVE EVERYONE HOW SMART THEY ARE! *standing ovation*
But in reality, they’re just BOASTFUL.
Eat your brains !
Smash the Biography of Alexander the Great in your face !
Include the history of all the famous people in the world..!
JUST SMASH EVERYTHING !
EAT THE PAGES IF YOU WANT ! *CLAP CLAP CLAP*
In your face Mr. Know it all !
and a HAPPY NEW YEAR !
LOL
So, let’s see. The Albanians are proud for being an older people than Greeks in the territory, although they didn’t manage to produce written language until only recent years… very recent years actually… or even art and philosophy CONTRARY TO THE GREEKS that merely conquered the known world with their language and ideas.
And then we have the Skopjians, that have the nerve to show off ancient macedonian findings with GREEK written all over it and still claim them to be … non-Greek, and they also don’t even know what Alexandros means, an ancient GREEK NAME derived from TWO different Greek words that date back to Homer!!! But they prefer to believe that it’s because Greek was spoken all over the land at the time. Well, I know of Greeks in America and Australia. They still call their children Greek names, but you say that then, a PROUD macedonian race, as you claim it to be, would give the name of their hated enemies to a PRINCE???????????? Seriously???
They also fail to remember the fact that it was only RECENTLY that their governors “realized” they are descendants of Alexander! They dare speak of Greek propaganda, when Greeks were taught about the Greek Alexander the Great since the Byzantium at least, when Skopjans put it in their “history” books in the last 30 years or less!!! I wonder why!
WOW! Ok, no problem, we’re later than Albanians in the territory, but we sure are a LOT smarter!!! LOL I don’t give a shit who got here first! We occupied this land and then the entire world with our philosophy and ideas and science, that is being “refounded” today!!!
And yep, Macedonian, the ancient greek STATE can go to the Skopjans, the poor things don’t have anything to be proud of… so why not just give them a little something of our vast history! Besides, no matter how many artifacts they present to the world, they will still have Greek written on them!
I feel sorry for you…
Not to mention the name Phillipos, which is derived also from two ANCIENT Greek words, the words, Philos and ippos, and means The one that loves horses… lol If I were a Skopjian I would call both Phillipos and Alexandros TRAITORS for taking on Greek names!!!! TRAITORS of the Great Macedonian Civilization!!!!! And that Phillipos even dared to give Alexandros to the greatest Greek philosopher to teach him. That bastard Aristotelis, who should have been slain along with the others! TRAITORS!!!!!
LOOOOL!
Alexander was a trully profound man. We did not live in his era but we can learn more from this Young man who conqoured many nations and reigned supreme in all ways.
Aristotle was chosen by parents Philip and Olympia to teach Alexander, Greek language but Aristotle stated that Alexander not learned to speak Greek properly.
But due to the mutual antipathy between Philip and the Greeks, those most directly responsible for Alexander’s education were non-Greeks..
Alexander never fully trusted the Greeks, but depended instead upon his Macedonians and Epirotes, Illyrians and Thracians, in whom he has confidence. The Greek language was used as the international and official language of the civilized world at that time just as Latin became later, then French and now English.
But Alexander the Great spoke the language of his ancestors Pelasgian, the language of all the tribes of the Western Balkans, that newcomers will be tried later for the eradication of inherited (stole) it belongs only to true descendants in the blood and language, who are only Albanians.
The Pelasgi were an ancient race spread throughout the whole of Greece, but especially Thessaly. He outlined that region and called it “Pelasgic Argos” because it formerly belonged to the Pelasgians
Before the time of the Greeks, the whole of Greece was a settlement of barbarians, among whom were listed the Pelasgi
Knowing that he was from Macedonia, the Greeks wished to exclude him from the games, saying that only Greeks were allowed to contend, and not barbarians. But Alexander proved himself a descendant of Hercules and the kings of Argos so he was reluctantly admitted. It is obvious though that the Greeks did not consider the Macedonians as fellow Greeks.
———
Herodotus, The Histories: Vol. 2 of 2: Parallel English/Greek
By Herodotus
Page 15
When Alexander wished to contend in games and had descended for this purpose into the arena, the Hellenes who were to run against him tried to exclude him, saying that the contest was not for Barbarians to contend in but for Hellenes.
http://books.google.com/books?id=FN6ZVxstsjUC&pg=PA15&dq=When+Alexander+wished+to+contend+in+games+and+had+descended+for+this+purpose+into+the+arena,+the+Hellenes+who+were+to+run+against+him+tried+to+exclude+him&hl=en&ei=9eI8TImjK4OglAeN68m3Aw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=When%20Alexander%20wished%20to%20contend%20in%20games%20and%20had%20descended%20for%20this%20purpose%20into%20the%20arena%2C%20the%20Hellenes%20who%20were%20to%20run%20against%20him%20tried%20to%20exclude%20him&f=false
Pelasgians means old Albanians S. Frasheri says (in the book “what Albania has been and what is now …” Page. 44). Divided into four main branches:
1-Illyria that had spread from the old Greek border to the northern edge of the Asian Sea
2 – Macedonians, who lived in areas of Macedonia that stretched from the mountains of Pindos Mountains to the Rhodope mountains, and in the Aegean Sea.
3 Thrakasit, which were widespread in the territories of Bulgaria, without having to determine the northern borders.
4-Frigasit that found in the provinces of the coast of Anatolia to Ankara to Sivas.
The truth is that the Pelasgians were made of three kingdoms Thrace-Macedonians, Illyrians, and Epirus.
All three of them had something in common, they spoke a similar language, worshiped the same ancient dieties, had the same traditions which are Pelasgian, and are explained in a meaningful way by the Albanian language of modern days
Pelasgian spoken language, although it is the same everywhere, usually is characterized by the names of territories and countries where it is spoken as: Illyrian, Thracian ,Argian, Arian, Macedonian, Epirotic, Frigian, Karian, Lidian, Likaonian, Etruscan, Osk, Fenician, Venetia, Ligurian etc
Professor J. B. Bury, exploring the Greek language, in an inscription that was found in Crete, the written letters with the Greek alphabet today, he claims that writing is marked with gamma, but a written not understand.
Consult once was a Greek, who read the writing on Miracle; later face was red, that always, somewhere on throw away the truth, that the Albanian never existed, because there has been no alphabet. Most took wings,.. “do not understand.” Sometime later learned the so-called Greek alphabet, which I embrace with great Albanian world. Later, during decoding, enigma chosen, went on a liquid Albanian language.
Pierre Cabanes: Ilirian is spoken and written in the language of sovereign”- interview
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Here is another proof from Albanian language in Greece by Niko Stylos, who he was born and grown in Greece.
google greek english translation
The big hiddend truth ,to whom belong the word greatest civilisation
Athens and Rome, the two major intellectual centers of antiquity, because most appropriated many of the prominent of the Pelasgians, were found in need to hide the true history. To accomplish this, kateskapsan cities of the Pelasgians; burnt their books and turned
the whole story in ancient mythology dropping so deep darkness, now not only know the accomplishments of prominent Pelas-Cash Transaction, one whom were Albanian, the so-called and Gold, but not even know what were Pelasgians, although the archaeological excavations have brought to light thousands of projects
art, which adorn most the museums of Europe and America and although more than ten thousand written remnants of this culture are
found only in the Tyrrhenian Etruria or Italy. Because here we are talking about the Albanian rather than the Pelasgians, simple to say,
according to various ancient pelasgian
written and related information
Ancient Greeks
By Niko Stylos
download :http://www.sendspace.com/file /gqrfon
“Ethikos Mithos”
Albanians are the original people of Europe, and there is current information, indicating that the Albanians are the most homogeneous in Europe, and all Balkan populations
23 Albanian between 2237 Europeans, a U.S. study on race
Two professors at the University of California, Peter Ralph and Graham Coop have published a study of the geography Actual Genetic ancestors throughout Europe.
This study has used a database called POPRES that has taken 2,237 Europeans genetic data. Their genetic data are used to verify the genealogical heritage of the inhabitants of Europe up to 3 thousand years ago.
Parts of this study were 9 genetic data from Albania and Albanians from Kosovo Albanians 14. (23 words Albanians are living in London and Lausanne).
This study provides a lot of discussion, however, results in the table on page 37 (follow the link at the end of the note) show that the Albanians are the most homogeneous in Europe and that all Balkan populations have a common ancestor with the Albanians that date back more than 2 thousand years ago, even before the Slavic invasions in these regions.
On page 15 of the study (Who are) say that modern Albanians may be descendants of people who lived in the eastern part of the Adriatic and today Salento (Italy) during the Roman period. Below is a bit from that part which referred to the Albanians:
“The highest level of the common identity is found in individuals who speak Albanian, who have a common background growth that comes from 1,500 years ago. It suggests that an important part of modern Albanian predecessors have been a relatively consistent and collect population has been stable for at least the past 1,500 years … ”
*****
This publication Scientific American authors of July 2012 may be consulted at:
The geography of recent genetic ancestry across Europe
(University of California at Davis, USA)
Click to access 1207.3815v1.pdf
Dokumentari i SKAI 1821-përkthyer në shqip.wmv
“Ethikos Mithos”
Oh Jesus Christ Superstar! An ongoing debate for five years which is pointless because all of you have been totally mindfucked by your own countries’ propaganda and brainwashing. Kudos! You’re retarded.
Now, to get some facts straight, shall we? Contemporary Macedonians (those of FYROM, I mean) are Slavs. Everyone knows that but them. Their problem. Albanians (sorry, buddies) are neither Illyrians, nor Daco-Thracians nor anything but simply Albanians until some actual PROOF is given; false etymologies won’t do the work though, sorry. And no, there’s no connection between contemporary Albania and Caucasian Albania. Proof? Caucasian Albanians spoke a Lezgic language, or even a mixture of them or a cocktail of many other regional languages. Contemporary Albania speaks a proven Indo-European language.
But going on and saying that Albanians were… the Pelasgians? Whatafuck? Where did that come from? We can’t even prove a connection between Albanians and Illyrians! You go so far to the Pelasgians? That is simply mindblowing and retarded at the same time.
Now, Macedonians (those ancient ones, I mean) are simply Macedonians. Not Greek, not Thracian, not Illyrian; they are a separate tribe. Yes, their language was influenced by Greek, yes they might have been (noticed the magic word “might” there?) a separate and long-distant Greek tribe, but most evidence shows that they were simply a not very related tribe with that of the Hellenes.
So, yes; Alexander the Great was Macedonian. Much to the Greeks’ pain and anguish, he was not Greek (although he spoke Attic Greek pretty well, he was highly educated). Much to the (Contemporary) Macedonians’ pain and anguish, he was not a Slav. And, last but not least, much to the Albanians’ pain and anguish, he was not Albanian.
Sources: History, people. Seriously, what bullshit do you guys read???
Caucasian Albanians must not to be confused with the Illyrian Albanians of modern-day Albania in the Balkans.
AVAR ETYMOLOGY
Caucasian Albanians must not to be confused with the Illyrian Albanians of modern-day Albania in the Balkans. The Caucasian Albanian name could be the remnant of the Macedonian expansion towards Asia. Alexander the Great had recruited Illyrian soldiers for his campaign against Persia and later India.
Source;
SPECTACULAR DISPLAY OF POKORNY’S INDO EUROPEAN ETYMOLOGICAL DICTIONARY
http://web.archive.org/web/20080113011336/http://www.geocities.com/protoillyrian/serb.html
Until about the fifteenth century they were not called Albanians but Illyrians,
or even Macedonians.
Source;
Congressional serial set
United States . Government Printing Office – Political Science – 1911, page 14
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Südost-Forschungen, Volumes 63-64 – Page 716
Südost-Institut München, Deutsches Auslandswissenschaftliches Institut (Berlin, Germany) – History – 2005
Illyrer und Makedonen sind wegen ihrer pelasgischen Herkunft ebenfalls Albaner
Translate in English
Southeast Research, Volumes 63-64 – Page 716
South East Institute in Munich, German Auslandswissenschaftliches Institute (Berlin, Germany) – History – 2005
Illyrians and the Macedonians are also Albanians because of their Pelasgian origin.
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Macedonia; its races and their future
By Henry Noël Brailsford 1906
Page 91
Of the races which inhabit Macedonia to-day only the Albanians have any claim to be autochthonous. Their southern branch, the Tosks, are most likely the lineal descendants of the ancient Epirotes. Their northern branch, the Ghegs, are probably the people whom the ancients called Illyrians.
Of the ancient Macedonians whose original seat lay between Monastir and Vodena, no heirs remain, unless indeed any remnants of them escaped civilization and became confounded with the kindred Albanians.
http://books.google.com/books?id=LCspAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA91&dq=Of+the+races+which+inhabit+Macedonia+to-day+only+the+Albanians+have+any+claim+to+be+autochthonous&hl=en&ei=S7AOTav8J4T68AbM-ozxDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Of%20the%20races%20which%20inhabit%20Macedonia%20to-day%20only%20the%20Albanians%20have%20any%20claim%20to%20be%20autochthonous&f=false
The truth is that the Pelasgians were made of three kingdoms Thrace-Macedonians, Illyrians, and Epirus.
All three of them had something in common, they spoke a similar language,
worshiped the same ancient dieties, had the same traditions which are Pelasgian, and are explained in a meaningful way by the Albanian language of modern days
Pelasgian spoken language, although it is the same everywhere, usually is characterized by the names of territories and countries where it is spoken as: Illyrian, Thracian ,Argian, Arian, Macedonian, Epirotic, Frigian, Karian, Lidian, Likaonian, Etruscan, Osk, Fenician, Venetia, Ligurian etc
Pelasgians means old Albanians S. Frasheri says (in the book “what Albania has been and what is now …” Page. 44). Divided into four main branches:
1-Illyria that had spread from the old Greek border to the northern edge of the Asian Sea
2 – Macedonians, who lived in areas of Macedonia that stretched from the mountains of Pindos Mountains to the Rhodope mountains, and in the Aegean Sea.
3 Thrakasit, which were widespread in the territories of Bulgaria, without having to determine the northern borders.
4-Frigasit that found in the provinces of the coast of Anatolia to Ankara to Sivas.
It is generally recognized today that the Albanians are the most ancient race in southesatern Europe. All indications point to the fact that they are descendants of the earliest Aryan immigrants who were represented in historical times by the kindred Illyrians, Macedonians and Epirots.
According to the opinion of most ethnologists and linguists, the Illyrians formed the core of pre-Hellenic, Tyrrhenopelasgian population, which inhabited the southern portion of the Peninsula and extended its limits to Thrace and Italy.
The Illyrians were also Pelasgians, but in a wider sense. Moreover it is believed that of these cognate races, which are described by the ancient Greek writers as “barbarous” and “non-Hellenic,” the Illyrians were the progenitors of the Ghegs, or Northern Albanians, and the Epirots the progenitors of the Tosks, or Southern Albanians.
Ancient Greek and Roman contacts occurred precisely in the territory of old Illyria, leaving their traces in the Illyrian language from which they later passed into the Albanian language.
Illyrian toponyms, ancient Illyrian place names for cities, rivers and mountains, are preserved today in the Albanian language, and only in Albanian. The names of Balkan villages usually lasted only a few centuries, for villages were often destroyed altogether during wartime. Cities lasted longer, so their names were usually older.
But rivers, lakes and mountains endured through the centuries, and their ancient names usually continued in use. Even new inhabitants usually adopted the old names, just as American colonists adopted many old Indian place names in the United States.
Accordingly, Albanian linguists have found more than 300 names of ancient cities like Shkodra, rivers like the Drin and mountains like Tomor which were mentioned by ancient Greek and Roman geographers or historians and which are still in use in Albania.
Scholars show how the rules of historical phonetics explain any changes of spelling over the centuries from Illyrian to Albanian, as Scupi to Shkup, Scodra to Shkodra, Lissus to Lezha, Durrachium to Durrës, Drinus to Drin, Mathis to Mat. Certainly the Albanian language is derived from the Illyrian (Cabej 1985, 42-62).
Today Albanian is spoken in most of the same region where Illyrian was spoken in ancient times. Those few language elements which are known as Illyrian can be explained through the Albanian language, and no other.
The Albanians have largely avoided assimilation by their neighbours, despite centuries of incursion and exploitation, and see themselves as direct descendents of the pre-Hellenic, Hallstatt culture Illyrian who in their turn were the offspring of the Pelasgians—the first people to come to Europe
The ultimate origin of the root Alb- has been traced to an Illyrian word (alb “white”).
In the 2nd century BC, Polybius’s History of the World mentions a tribe named Arbon in present-day central Albania. The people who lived there were called Albanoí and Arbanita.
The Albanians called their country Arbër or Arbën and referred to themselves as Arbëresh or Arbnesh
Shqipëria, popularly interpreted as “Land of the Eagles” or “Land of the Mountain Eagle” hence the two-headed bird on the national flag.
Trojan has named himself as the Dardan and Alban and this looks set names that new countries where they settled after displacement that part of population from Troy.
So Ene Dardania was founded in Italy town called Alba.
Briti his nephew, as he was decided in Britain called it part of Alban, which is Scotland today, has inherited name the capital of New York
It has evidence that they were themselves Alban and Dardane, names that come two Illyrian tribes in antiquity Dardan and Alban. But today the only people, who called Alban and Dardan, are Albanians.
It is no accident that Albanian people today called the old name alban of Europe, with which it is named, that are all the peoples of old Europe.
Thus, Britain was called Albion and Scotland Albani, Teutono-Trojan German tribes are called by Strabo the name Albania, Italy Trojan rise Alban city name, the Black Sea called themselves Skithet Alban etc…
Name Alban according to all historical and scientific resources, means White. Even today Western scholars explain Albion name of Great Britain the word fair.
It is to see the Albino attention from Albanian word has meaning in A- bion, which that means blonde. In all dictionaries Albino word means white man.
Name Alban with which, Albanians are known today from world has more sense.
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HISTORIANS are generally agreed that the Albanians are the oldest racial stock in the Balkans, a remnant of the pre-Hellenic inhabitants of the peninsula.
Source; The North American review, Volume 227, page 753, Jared Sparks, Edward Everett, James Russell Lowell, Henry Cabot Lodge – History – 1929
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The Albanian tribes here probably represent part of the very ancient population, commonly known by the much-abused name ” Pelasgian.”
The great Pelasgian oracle of Dodona was in this country (probably near the Lake of Yanina ), and the apparent antiquity of the Albanian alphabet, the philological peculiarities of their language, and the character of some of the words, are in favor of this view.
The two main Albanian tribes are divided by the Egnatian Road , as the Illyrians and Epirots were in antiquity, and this adds to the probability that the same races inhabited the country then as now
Source: The Academy, Volume 1 – Page 49, Literary Criticism – 1869
http://books.google.com/books?id=n_LVAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA49&dq=The+Albanian+tribes+here+probably+represent+part+of+the+very+ancient+population,+commonly+known&lr=&client=firefox-a&cd=1#v=onepage&q=The%20Albanian%20tribes%20here%20probably%20represent%20part%20of%20the%20very%20ancient%20population%2C%20commonly%20known&f=false
The current, Issues 238-252
1888
Page 249
The Albanian was the tongue of the ancient Illyrians, most of the Macedonians, and perhaps all of Greece
http://books.google.com/books?id=LazPAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA249&dq=being+the+oldest+inhabitants+of+the+peninsula,+and+because+they+speak+a+language+derived+from+ancient+Illyrian&hl=en&ei=7nfETbruOonogQfm7u3LBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false
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U.S. Department of state about Albania
Scholars believe the Albanian people are descended from a non-Slavic, non-Turkic group of tribes known as Illyrians, who arrived in the Balkans around 2000 BC.
After falling under Roman authority in 165 BC, Albania was controlled nearly continuously by a succession of foreign powers until the mid-20th century, with only brief periods of self-rule.
Following the split of the Roman Empire in 395, the Byzantine Empire established control over present-day Albania. In the 11th century, Byzantine Emperor Alexius I Comnenus made the first recorded reference to a distinct area of land known as Albania and to its people.
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/3235.htm
The Missionary review of the world, Volume 34 – Page 849
Religion – 1911
The Albanians are generally identified by impartial scholars as the result of
the combination of the ancient Illyrians, Macedonians and Epirotes, who were all the descendants of the most ancient Pelasgians.
These Pelasgians were the first people who came into Europe and occupied the Balkan Peninsula .
Very much later there came the waves of Slavs and drove the Albanians, who were scattered all over the Balkan Peninsula
The Albanians can claim, therefore, to be one of the oldest and purest races of Europe, their only rivals being the Iberians of the Spanish Peninsula .
http://books.google.com/books?id=kJ3NAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA849&dq=The+Albanians+can+claim,+therefore,+to+be+one+of+the+oldest+and+purest+races+of+Europe,+their+only+rivals+being&lr=&ei=3kbKS9OPCIKKzQToieXEDQ&cd=1#v=onepage&q=The%20Albanians%20can%20claim%2C%20therefore%2C%20to%20be%20one%20of%20the%20oldest%20and%20purest%20races%20of%20Europe%2C%20their%20only%20rivals%20being&f=false
Journal of the Ethnological Society of London, Volume 1
By Ethnological Society (London)
1869
Page 324
1.The Epirotes and Macedonians were, in Strabo’s time, ungreek or barbarian.
2. Epirotes, Macedonians, and Illyrians are kindred races.
3. The Epirotes and Macedonians were the kernel of the TyrrhenoPelasgic race.
4. lllyrian=Pelasgian in a wider sense.
At p. 12, Von Hahn especially defines that the present divisions of the
Albanians, the Tosks and Guegs, actually represent the Epirotes and Illyrians.
http://books.google.com/books?id=sLU6AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA324&dq=The+Epirotes+and+Macedonians+were,+in+Strabo%27s+time,+in+Greek+or+barbarian.&hl=en&ei=feo0TKfXKoS0lQfgxanTBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=The%20Epirotes%20and%20Macedonians%20were%2C%20in%20Strabo%27s%20time%2C%20in%20Greek%20or%20barbarian.&f=false
Did this personality tell the truth? Yes he told the truth! Only the truth is important, whether you want to face it or not!
A Short History of Russia and the Balkan States
By Donald Mackenzie Wallace
Page 87
History and legend afford no record of their arrival in the Balkan Peninsula. They are probably the descendants of the earliest Aryan immigrants, who were represented in historical times by the kindred Illyrians, Macedonians and Epirots;
http://books.google.com/books?id=5NyQEh8qFIQC&pg=PA87&dq=history+and+legend+afford+no+record&hl=en&ei=aVciTNbjO8P6lwf2rOTHCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CEEQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=History%20and%20legend%20afford%20no%20record%20of%20their%20arrival%20in%20the%20Balkan%20Peninsula.%20&f=false
alexender the great will remain in my heart till my last breath as he traveled with his army thousand of kilometer winning the land and king after king.but indians newer did like him in ancient time
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I’m touched with this three lessons. I pray his Soul rest in peace.
Independent GENETIC TESTING HAS CONCLUSIVELY CONFIRMS that Modern Macedonian’s from the Replica of Macedonian are the authentic descendants of King Philip and his son Alexander the Great. No Amount of public proper gander promoted by FROT (FORMER REPUBLIC OF TURKEY AKA Greece) will ever be able to change these facts. FROT never acknowledged Macedonia prior to them occupying our territory. I am Macedonian my family is macedonian and grand parents are Macedonian, my blood is Macedonian and definitely not Greek. There is only one Macedonia a united Macedonian. Greece has confirmed to not be honorable time and time again. The division that Greece occupies will be reunited and once again Macedonian will prosper for the authentic spirit we are. DNA is authority in this matter as DNA IS CONCLUSIVE. Greece has committed genocide throughout the 80’s have tortured and tormented native indigenous Macedonians residing in what is now known as the Greek (occupied) territory of macedonia. THIS IS FACT! PURE UNDEBATABLE FACT.What NAZI Germany done to the Jews, FROT (Greece) has and is doing to the Native Macedonians.
First off I’m not Greek but I think I need to defend Greece because what you said is really stupid. If you are member of the Slavic Republic of Macedonia you are not legitimate Macedonian you are a Slav. Your country took that name so that they could steal a culture and history because apparently they had none.
Although Macedonians proudly identified themselves as Slavs from 1914 until 1992, many (Fake) Macedonians were inclined to distance themselves from their hated Serbian Slavic rivals so they claimed someone else’s heritage.
I’m sorry to be so blunt but just because Alexander the Great is Macedonian and not ethically Greek doesn’t make him related to Slavic people who call themselves Macedonian. Macedonians were considered half-breeds by Greeks but still Greek none the less.
Finally stop arguing over a culture, history, and heritage that is not yours and do something to make a history for yourself instead of trying to steal others. As for the FROT thing that doesn’t exist because Greece claims what it is by right so there is no need for any Former Republic of Turkish Greece while Macedonia claims what is NOT is hence the reason for the Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia which is not Macedonian but Slavic.
Regarding the original question of his bruial requests:
I have my doubts.
First, he was sick for 10 days, and on day 6 & 7 he gave orders for a voyage he and the army were to take in just a few days. (Point, he was not expecting death.) Then, on day 8, his condition got worse. His officers visited him but the eye-witness records indicate he did not speak to them. On day 9 & 10 he had a high fever. Some of his soldiers were permitted to file past his bed and he acknowledged each one but did not speak to anyone. The night of day 9/10 his 7 generals spent the night in a temple. They later went to him. This was probably the time they asked him who should take over the empire. In his weakened condition he spoke only one word – which amounted to “the strongest.”
In the above time frame there is little possibility of a triad of requests with an extended explanation.
Also, let’s assume his final wishes (whatever they were) were carried out. Had Alexander wished to convey a message about wealth being empty in death his burial certainly contradicted his wish. Alexander’s body was laid in a gold sarcophagus that was filled with honey, which was in turn placed in a gold casket. (Hardly the action of a man wishing to display that worldly wealth stays on earth.) Not to mention that it is unlikely any group of men would carry it any great distance.
To me, the evidence is overwhelmingly against this story, However, none of this DISPROVES the story. I would be extremely suspicious of it.
Alexander the Great was Nigerian and used his big **** to take over the world.
Greeks and Greece never existed prior to 1830s – Alexander the Great was Macedonian which are not Greeks – Greece seeks to fabricate a historical records to justify the illegal portioning of Macedonia which Greece stole 51% of the Macedonian territory from the Macedonian people. Alexander the Great father is Macedonian his blood line is Macedonian. I am indigenous Macedonian confirmed by DNA testing. I am not slavic as some Greek propaganda monkeys seeks to suggest in order to justify the falsification of historical records. It is clearly evident that this modern day Greek society has no direct links or ties with the ancient worlds. The real macedonians are Macedonian by blood not by simply loving a fictional manufactured nation known as modern day Greece born out of the ottomans crafted by Britain France and others to be a puppet for their objectives.
dis is a wise and true saying but our present day politicians who love wealth mote dan their life will ignore this.
Summary of summaries
Prominent Italian researcher Lucia Nadin has discovered a testament of Alexander the Great in which he addresses the people of Shkodra (city of Albania) giving them a territory in administration and addressing the word that he is “sucker of seed of Illyrian “
The document is published these days by the Italian researcher who has done scientific research for Alexander the Great.
(The will is discovered and translated from Italian researcher Lucia Nadin, which she has presented at scientific research, “Statuti de Scutari, della prima meta del secolo XVI con le addizioni fino al 1469”, e cura di Lucia Nadin, giogno 2002, Romë).
Alexander the Great is neither Greek nor Macedonian Slav, the only ones have right to be originated from Alexander the Great, are only Albanians, where Alexander the Great himself stated that is Illyrian in his will to the people of Shkodra (which mean Albanian people) that he is Illyrian from mother and father.
Not only that it is ridiculous to claim that is Greek, when Alexander the Great conquered Greece, and this proves Aristotle himself in his book. But these Slav Macedonians that call themselves, Macedonians have come after the seventh century AD in Europe, while Alexander was born century BC.
Aristotle: Introductory Readings: – Page xi
By Aristotle, Terence Irwin
Aristotle was born in Stagira in Macedon in 384 B. C. In his lifetime the kingdom of Macedon, first under Philip and then under Philip’s son Alexander the great, conquered the Greek cities in Europe and Asia, and went on to conquer the Persian Empire.
Though Aristotle spent much of his life in Athens, he was not an Athenian citizen.
http://books.google.com/books?id=vWxqPyLgOEsC&pg=PR11&lpg=PR11&dq=Though+Aristotle+spent+much+of+his+life+in+Athens,+he+was+not+an+Athenian+citizen&source=bl&ots=szmGGV3s-y&sig=3gcResCMHAFe3bnGtgs_nMgGryA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ZrgsU7q0JpPwyAHzu4HQCA&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Though%20Aristotle%20spent%20much%20of%20his%20life%20in%20Athens%2C%20he%20was%20not%20an%20Athenian%20citizen&f=false
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WELL, ALEXZENDER IS ALEXZENDER !! PLEASE I REQUEST TO CHAINA AND KETHERINE HENESSEY DO NOT BELIEVE SUCH TYPE OF STORY OF ALEXZENDER !!!! HE DESERVED FOR SALUTES !! BECAUSE HE IS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL MILLITARIES COMMANDAR AND HIS KNOWLEDGES OF MILLITARY FORCES IS OUTSTANDINGS !!! PLEASE , RESPECT THE GREAT WARRIORS !!!!! —> CALLED ALEXZENDER THE GREAT !!!
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Such a beautiful story of one as great as Alexandar the Great to experience inner awakening, realisation and coming to terms with the truth of what’s really important in life’s and the kindness of the man to share what he has learnt with all around him, letting himself be a warning to all, not to fall into the same trappings of life as he did-just,when he is about to meet his maker. For this he is indeed “Great”. …but is the story based on historical facts and truth or just a fable. In any case, even if it is a fable and not the truth, surely, the person who came up with this fable is extremely creative and positively insightful of the truth and meaning of life!
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Learn the Three last wish of alexander the great
His spiritual eye was opened, to see such and ask of such. I pray that this testimony helps me understand
This tells us that all what we are busy looking for in this world money worth property etc are vanities.Why should we be chasing vanities which is not going to profit us anyway
WHY DID ALEXANDER SAY THAT.
These are questions we have to ask our self.
If we get all the dollers,pounds,the most expensive cars and buildings and we loose our life without knowing Christ how is it going too profit us.Knowing God should be your be your first prourity in life.
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This should be a true story,there is nothing extraordinary especially for someone who is dieing to have such wishes.
I also posted a version of this story here: . I added a little caveat near the end just to note that there doesn’t seem to be any reliable source for the anecdote. Regardless of progeny, the story still offers valuable lessons for retirees and those about to retire.
whats the historical refference to this interesting story?